Are M Sport brakes worth it? THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
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| Originally Posted by M235xi_EB BMW most likely designed a total different brake system and called it M-Sport. they are no way a comparable brake system to Brembo. |
They are brembo brakes. better brake fluid and better pads are all they need if you want more performance out of them. They worked really great for me at the track until they got hot, but I was running the stock brake fluid
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| Originally Posted by M235xi_EB The supposed M-Sport brakes on my M235 are a complete disappointment with less performance than standard BMW brakes on my 335i. one of the selling points of the M235 was is comes standard with M-Sport brakes. However, I’m not sure what that really is. since the car is different than the 3 series, BMW most likely designed a total different brake system and called it M-Sport. they are no way a comparable brake system to Brembo. Performance. The pedal travel is very mushy. there are several reviews stating the brakes are mushy. What is really disappointing is the Brake Fade when I step on the brakes hard. The car is very fast and brakes (stopping a fast car) are so important. When the car can’t stop, it is scary. my 335i normal brakes out performs the M235 hands down. the pedal pressure required is low compared to M235. I have even compared it to M3 brake testing that is superior to both. if you are considering the M235, test the brakes and test them hard from at least 80 mph to 10 mph or so. you will be amazed at how poorly it slows. |
Break feel and brake performance is two different things, the msport (rebrand brembos) does have a soft feel but they perform well, the 335 floating caliper does have a faster bite feel but is not smooth _ 2006 325xi (Sold) 2014 M235I (Current) 2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
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| Originally Posted by jaffa12 according to Chris Harris who was provided with all MP bits and pieces, the MP brakes are basically the same as stock but slotted and not worth the $$ |
yes, they are the same brakes just painted red, orange or yellow with slight bigger rotor with slots and dimples I suppose the pads are the same too.
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Are M Sport brakes worth it?
How long do M Sport brakes last?
M Sport Brakes – Expected Life?
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| Captain | M Sport Brakes – Expected Life? Does anyone know (from BMW service recommendation or personal experience): What’s the expected life on the pads and rotors for the F3x M Sport Brakes (2NH)? Last edited by dr.roro; 12-08-2018 at 07:37 AM, |
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| Originally Posted by dr.roro Does anyone know (from BMW service recommendation or personal experience): What’s the expected life on the pads and rotors for the F3x M Sport Brakes (2NH)? |
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| Originally Posted by tastes jigga My ’14 435i xDrive with M Sport Brakes lasted 45-50k miles for both front and rear |
I have a 2014 335i with the M Sport Brake Option. The car currently has 104,000 miles and I am the original owner. My original rotors lasted 100,000 miles including 22 track days/HDPEs some of which the car was shared between my GF and myself and run in back to back sessions. I currently still use the original M Sport Brake Option pads in the winter and I run the F80/82 M3/M4 brake pads in the summer/track.
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| Originally Posted by tastes jigga My ’14 435i xDrive with M Sport Brakes lasted 45-50k miles for both front and rear |
That’s about the average life expectancy in mixed city and highway driving. The front pads and rotors will have to replaced first.
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| Originally Posted by KD07 I have a ’16 340i msport with track package (19″ wheels and big blue msport brakes) with ~53k miles. Front brake pads sensor just alerted me it’s time to replace them. And I’m not anywhere close to the most conservative driver. Safe to say you’ll get 50k miles minimum out of them if you don’t track the car. Now begs the question. where should I get brake pads knowing they’re the right ones and fit and don’t bend me over in price? I plan on doing all maintenance in my driveway from now on considering the car is beyond warranty at this point and no longer included in my lease term (over my miles). I’m not letting bmw charge me like $500+ just to replace front brake pads |
I would check out YouTube and replace them yourself. With no experience at all you could complete the job in an hour tops.
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Originally Posted by Alexander502 Quote:
I would check out YouTube and replace them yourself. With no experience at all you could complete the job in an hour tops. |
Thanks for the tip. I’ve done a dozen or so brake jobs before, I doubt these are any different. I’m going to go with powerstop Z26 Street warrior brake kit with pads and cross drilled/slotted rotors. Attached Images _ 2016 340i – 6MT // M-Sport // JB4 // BMS Intake // AFE catback
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| Originally Posted by KD07 Thanks for the tip. I’ve done a dozen or so brake jobs before, I doubt these are any different. I’m going to go with powerstop Z26 Street warrior brake kit with pads and cross drilled/slotted rotors. |
I’ve not done this on my f30 yet. Just bought it last Friday and hope the pads on there last quite a while. Would you mind reporting back once you’ve completed it so us noobs get your feedback? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Alexander502 Quote:
I’ve not done this on my f30 yet. Just bought it last Friday and hope the pads on there last quite a while. Would you mind reporting back once you’ve completed it so us noobs get your feedback? Thanks! |
Finished the brake job over the weekend, replaced all 4 rotors and pads with the PowerStop cross drilled and slotted rotors and ceramic and carbon fiber pads in the picture I posted previously. Everything went smoothly, nothing unexpected except the rear pads were a pretty snug fit. Noticeably wider than the OEM pads when held up next to each other. The one side I had to actually file and dremel down on the sides to slide them in but other than that all good. They work like a champ, after break in period they are silent. Other than slight fitment issue on the rears, I am very satisfied. I also replaced both pad wear sensors and the notification and brake light still appear when starting the car. I know there’s a way you have to reset the car after doing any maintenance on your own by holding down the odometer buttton in the dash but couldn’t figure it out. I’ll do some research later and take care of that. Car currently says I’m like 15k miles past due service since I started doing my own oil changes and haven’t reset it yet. Attached Images _ 2016 340i – 6MT // M-Sport // JB4 // BMS Intake // AFE catback
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| Originally Posted by KD07 Finished the brake job over the weekend, replaced all 4 rotors and pads with the PowerStop cross drilled and slotted rotors and ceramic and carbon fiber pads in the picture I posted previously. Everything went smoothly, nothing unexpected except the rear pads were a pretty snug fit. Noticeably wider than the OEM pads when held up next to each other. The one side I had to actually file and dremel down on the sides to slide them in but other than that all good. They work like a champ, after break in period they are silent. Other than slight fitment issue on the rears, I am very satisfied. I also replaced both pad wear sensors and the notification and brake light still appear when starting the car. I know there’s a way you have to reset the car after doing any maintenance on your own by holding down the odometer buttton in the dash but couldn’t figure it out. I’ll do some research later and take care of that. Car currently says I’m like 15k miles past due service since I started doing my own oil changes and haven’t reset it yet. |
Thanks for sharing! Those rotors look awesome. I’ll definitely look into that when the time comes to replace my rotors and pads. I’m sure there’s a post out there somewhere on resetting the maintenance yourself. I would bet that if you had bimmercode you could do it that way too. You could also do a lot of fun customization at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Alexander502 Quote:
Thanks for sharing! Those rotors look awesome. I’ll definitely look into that when the time comes to replace my rotors and pads. I’m sure there’s a post out there somewhere on resetting the maintenance yourself. I would bet that if you had bimmercode you could do it that way too. You could also do a lot of fun customization at the same time. |
Thanks, I found out my problem was trying to do it while the engine was on lol have to do it with just the ignition/accessory on and figured it out immediately. Brakes stop on a dime btw! _ 2016 340i – 6MT // M-Sport // JB4 // BMS Intake // AFE catback
M Sport Brakes – Expected Life?
Are M Sport brakes bigger?
Msport Brakes Vs. Stock BMW Brakes
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| Major Drives: BMW 428i Gran Coupe (2015) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Kingston, Jamaica | Msport Brakes Vs. Stock BMW Brakes Has anyone had any experience with both brakes? Did the Msport brakes really do a better job at stopping? Did they fade less? Any specs on each, ie stopping distance? |
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| Originally Posted by 64-bit Dumb question. I got a 2013 335i M-Sport, and the breaks are really large, how different are they from the 2014 base & $600 option? |
IIRC, the M Sport brake front calipers are the same as the stock calipers on the 335i (except for the paint); the rotors, however, are larger on the M Sport brakes. The M Sport brake option upgrades both the calipers and rotors in the rear. (Net is that on a 335i the M Sport brakes are identical to the M Performance brakes, except for the dimpled rotors.)
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Originally Posted by ipilcher Quote:
IIRC, the M Sport brake front calipers are the same as the stock calipers on the 335i (except for the paint); the rotors, however, are larger on the M Sport brakes. The M Sport brake option upgrades both the calipers and rotors in the rear. (Net is that on a 335i the M Sport brakes are identical to the M Performance brakes, except for the dimpled rotors.) |
Thank you for the clarification _ 2016 M3, Mineral White, SO Leather, MANUAL – ED 11/26/2015 2013 335i, Blue, M-Sport, Auto w/Sport Trans – ED 06/10/2013
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| Originally Posted by 64-bit Dumb question. I got a 2013 335i M-Sport, and the breaks are really large, how different are they from the 2014 base & $600 option? |
I guess the 2013 standard m sport brakes were not printed with BMW on them. Weird. Or maybe only 435I has the BMW on the standard M sport brakes. Anyone know?
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| Originally Posted by eyeloveteeth if you order m-sport brakes – are they covered for free replacement under the warranty period? |
Yes. CBS called for front brakes, they ended up putting new pads in all four corners.
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| Originally Posted by 64-bit Dumb question. I got a 2013 335i M-Sport, and the breaks are really large, how different are they from the 2014 base & $600 option? |
Here’s info I saved from an earlier thread, sorry I don’t recall the author: Original Brakes on “high power” models (335i) Front rotor: 340mm brake rotor with 4 piston caliper Rear rotor: 330mm brake rotor with 1 piston caliper Original Brakes on “low power” models (320i/328i) Front rotor: 312mm brake rotor with 1 piston caliper Rear rotor: 300mm brake rotor with 1 piston caliper M-Sport Brake Option (2NH) (Blue “M” calipers) Front rotor: 370mm Brake Rotor with 4 pistons (for on “high power” models) Front rotor: 340mm Brake Caliper with 4 pistons (for “low power” models) Rear rotor: 345mm Brake Caliper with 2 pistons (on all models) M-Performance Brake Kit (Yellow, Orange or Red “M” calipers) For a “high power” car (all that have 4 piston front brake calipers as factory standard): Sizes are the same as M-Sport 2NH option but all rotors are dimpled and slotted For a “low power” car (all that have 1 piston front brake calipers as factory standard): 370mm front rotors, 345mm rear rotors – all dimpled and slotted
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| Originally Posted by chiefneil Here’s info I saved from an earlier thread, sorry I don’t recall the author: |
This post by oceanview is great and clarifies the different brake options:
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| Originally Posted by Saphirschwarz, but you will never have a fair answer, its like asking which is better between LED or Xenons |
Ok I heard the LEDs don’t throw the light as far?
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| Originally Posted by eyeloveteeth wait, if i order m-performance brakes during my initial purchase. When it’s time for rotor replacement, they will replace with m-performance rotors as well???? holy shit that’s the deal of a lifetime if that’s true. |
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| Originally Posted by DJ Rocc Ok I heard the LEDs don’t throw the light as far? |
It goes just as far, but it’s slower.
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Msport Brakes Vs. Stock BMW Brakes
What kind of brakes are M Sport brakes?
Revised 10/18/2022 This page is evolving as we continue to find exceptions and changes made in the middle of production. The brake options on the G20 3-series and G22 4-series are much less confusing than their predecessors but there is still some confusion that needs clearing up. Base model brakes with single-piston sliding calipers front and rear. The pads look familiar since this a traditional caliper type. Front Rotor: 330x24mm, 1-piece, blank face rotors Rear Rotor: 330x20mm, 1-piece, blank face rotors Front Caliper: 1-piston, sliding, grey/unfinished Rear Caliper: 1-piston, sliding, grey/unfinished 330i/430i M Sport Brakes If the M Sport package was selected at the time of ordering the brakes were upgraded to M340i/M440i specs. See below. M340i/M440i Standard Brakes (M Sport) As a full M Sport model the M340i and M440i received appropriate M Sport brake upgrades. These are Brembo 4-piston fixed calipers in the front and single-piston sliding calipers in the rear. These were offered in either blue or red color. The M Sport pads are unique to match the size of the M Sport 348mm rotor. In the BMW parts diagrams there is a listing for the “Motorsport Engineering” optional brakes. It’s option code 033 (aka S033T or 033T or ZTK). We think this is a rare option and may not be offered in all markets. It was not offered for 330i/430i. The rotor size was increased to 374mm and the fixed caliper was changed for the extra 26mm of rotor diameter.
- Although the calipers look almost identical – and share some of the same components – they are slightly different.
- The pads are also different with the larger brakes getting a larger pad (127.7 x 117.4mm).
- The rear caliper remained a sliding single-piston design.
- These calipers were also offered as blue or red color.
These brakes should clear most 18″ wheels, however, BMW required 19″ wheels when the package was ordered. Front Rotor: 374x36mm, 2-piece, blank face rotors Rear Rotor: 345x24mm, 2-piece, blank face rotors Front Caliper: 4-piston, fixed, blue or red Rear Caliper: 1-piston, sliding, blue or red M Performance Accessory Brakes (all models) Available from the Accessories catalog, the M Performance brakes are a dealer-installed option. These match the specs of the Motorsport Engineering brakes but were only offered in the red color. The pads are the same as the ZTK track brakes. These brakes should clear most 18″ wheels.
Front Rotor: 374x36mm, 2-piece, dimpled & slotted rotors Rear Rotor: 345x24mm, 2-piece, dimpled & slotted rotors Front Caliper: 4-piston, fixed, red Rear Caliper: 1-piston, sliding, red How To Tell You can’t tell which brakes you have by the color. Just because you have red calipers does not mean you have an upgraded brake kit.
You can’t tell which brakes you have by the caliper – they are extremely similar in appearance. The best way we have found so far is to measure from the exact middle of your wheel center cap to the outer edge of your brake rotor. Over 7 inches is the 374mm rotor; under 7 inches is the 348mm rotor. Checking size on G20/G22 brakes. Click for larger.
Are performance brakes good for daily driving?
High Performance Brake Pads Are Overkill For Daily Drivers – 
When people hear “aftermarket brake pads”, they usually think of high performance brake pads. You know, the ones that are built for track racing or heavy towing, For example, pads that provide:
Really high friction levelsFast beddingStability in extremely high temperatures
These pads are usually very expensive – twice or even three times the price of OEM pads. What a lot of car owners don’t realize is that there are some entry level aftermarket brake pads that:
Perform better than OE brake padsAre made for daily driversCost about the same as OE brake pads, give or take a few bucks
Upgrading to quality entry level performance brake pads often does the trick for daily drivers. If you go with a quality brand, you’ll notice some improvements in your vehicle’s braking performance. Improvements like:
More biteMore longevityLess dust, noise, and fade
Why do M Sport brakes squeak?
The most common causes are: Thin film of rust on the brake rotors—Caused by rain or moisture in the air, the squeaking should stop after driving for a short amount of time. Driving conditions—Dust or sand in the air can cause squeaking sounds.
Are M Sport brakes different?
M Sport brakes vs M Performance brakes THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
| M Sport brakes vs M Performance brakes |
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| Originally Posted by InlineSixTwinScroll Hey y’all, although some of you may know this, there seems to be enough confusion out there that I thought I’d post about this, even though I’m no brake expert. Dealers, forum members, and potential buyers, all seem confused by the difference and think they both mean the same thing. NO !!! Some people just call them both “M brakes”. NO !!! Differences: Cost : First off, M Performance brakes cost a hell of a lot more than M Sport brakes. Color: Not that the color is a big deal, but it points out that these 2 brakes are totally different. M Sport comes in blue, while M Performance comes in red, yellow, or orange. What they are: M Performance brakes are actually high performance Brembo brakes, while M Sport brakes are just a small step up from the standard BMW brakes (certainly not Brembos). While standard brakes have floating calipers, the M Sport brakes have fixed calipers (4 piston front, 2 piston rear). The M235i comes with M Sport brakes, NOT with M Performance brakes. If you wanna add the M Performance brakes as an option, it’s about $2300. Just wanted to point this out, to those who don’t yet know the difference. Those who know more about brakes: please feel free to correct me or add to what I said. |
M sport are almost the same as the M perf brakes. difference is M perf come with 370mm dimpled/slotted rotors while the M sport are 340mm flat rotors. both are 4 pistion brembo front and 2 piston rear Only benefit of the M perf is probably better heat dissipation, but M sport are almost as good hence why nobody in their right mind buys the M perf brakes if you already have the stock M sport ones on the M235 as you have to pay $2300 for about 90% same parts
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| Originally Posted by pikcachu M sport are almost the same as the M perf brakes. difference is M perf come with 370mm dimpled/slotted rotors while the M sport are 340mm flat rotors. both are 4 pistion brembo front and 2 piston rear Only benefit of the M perf is probably better heat dissipation, but M sport are almost as good hence why nobody in their right mind buys the M perf brakes if you already have the stock M sport ones on the M235 as you have to pay $2300 for about 90% same parts |
Thanks, I just also found out that both brake systems have exactly the same size rotors, despite the flat vs dimpled. No point paying $2300 for that ! Thanks ! _
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| Originally Posted by InlineSixTwinScroll Thanks, I just also found out that both brake systems have exactly the same size rotors, despite the flat vs dimpled. |
Correct for rear only, 345mm for stock and mpbank Front mpbbk are larger than stock 370mm v 340mm _ Fettled M135i EB AT – gone but not forgotten: AW M2 DCT
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| Originally Posted by InlineSixTwinScroll Thanks, I just also found out that both brake systems have exactly the same size rotors, despite the flat vs dimpled. No point paying $2300 for that ! Thanks ! |
actually they don’t. front on the MPBK is 370 and stock is 340 there is though an optional 340mm dimpled rotors that you can put in the stock sport brakes
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| Originally Posted by pikcachu actually they don’t. front on the MPBK is 370 and stock is 340 there is though an optional 340mm dimpled rotors that you can put in the stock sport brakes |
I was comparing M Sport and M Performance, not stock and M Performance. See here: _
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| Originally Posted by 2tormTrooper This might be a stupid question but I’m just curious as an owner of a 228i I have a set of M performance front brakes on hand. Is it a direct swap from the stock brakes and is there a required offset needed for this to work? |
I’m assuming you have M-Sport Brakes from the Track Handling Package (Blue 4 pots in front, 2 in rear), as you imply making no changes to your rear brakes. The M-Performance calipers are plug and play (with ECU coding) and use the same size pads, but require larger 370mm front rotors vs 340mm included with the blue M-Sports. AFAIK the dimensions of the rear calipers are the same between ther 2 kits, as they use the same size rotors + pads. I went from std.1 piston sliding calipers on my 228i to the M-Perf brakes, drop me a line if you have questions as I DIY’d the upgrade. As for wheel fitment, all 18″ OEM wheels for the F22 chassis should work with this upgrade. FWIW I’m running 18×8.5 +35 Apex FL-5s and there is plenty of clearance to the spokes and barrel of the wheel. _ Current – ’15 228i
M Sport brakes vs M Performance brakes
Is the BMW M Sport worth it?
Is the M Sport package worth it? – If you’re looking for an affordable way to add some extra athleticism to your BMW, then the M Sport package is absolutely worth it. The improved driving dynamics and sleeker looks will take your experience to a whole new level.
However, if you’ve got a need for speed, you’ll want to open the wallet a little further and splurge on an M Performance or M Series model. This is the only way to get an upgraded engine with your motorsport designation. So let’s use the 2023 BMW 5-Series as an example again to view the upgrades that come with the other two motorsport tiers.
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Are BMW brakes made by Brembo?
Brembo and the BMW Partnership – Brembo has a unique relationship working directly with automotive manufacturers to develop high performance braking solutions specifically for your vehicle. You can rest assured that every system designed by Brembo is specifically tuned for your vehicle like no other braking system on the market. BMW turns to Brembo to supply braking solutions for all high performance OE road cars like the BMW E92 M3 GT-S. This is exemplified by the amazing stopping distance of the E90 M3 GTS from 100 km/h > 0 km/h. The distance was only 32.6 meters (by Auto Motor Und Sport) and one of the shortest stopping distances in the world.
Does BMW use Brembo?
About the BMW S 1000 RR Brake Caliper Recall – From launch until 2018, BMW used the same Brembo caliper on all its BMW S 1000 RR bikes. They had the same part number all the way through. Then, for the 2019 model year, BMW changed the caliper manufacturer from Brembo to Hayes.
Hayes is an American manufacturer of brake calipers which is majority owned by Brembo (and has been since 2007, when they acquired the brake divisions of Hayes for $58M). See here for our faq on motorcycle braking systems, including a discussion of the major brands. BMW just change to Hayes calipers on the 2019 S 1000 RR superbike (and a few other 1250 boxer bikes).
The streetfighter/naked S 1000 R kept its Brembo calipers when it was revised in 2020. Owners and fans were confused. Why change from Brembo? Brembo is synonymous with braking excellence. Many of the greatest bikes in the world use Brembo brakes. Not just Italian bikes, but even the top motorcycles from Japanese manufacturers.
According to BMW, they made this change based on extensive blind testing by users. There is unconfirmed speculation by forum members that it was related to cost issues (as is always possible), but that doesn’t explain why BMW still uses Brembo calipers on other motorcycles, nor why BMW would choose to use Nissin calipers on its M 1000 RR, a motorcycle which doesn’t seem constrained by costs.
Unfortunately, despite apparently good intentions, users quickly found out that sometimes the new Hayes brake caliper would leak slightly. This resulted in a recall ( 20V476, 13 Aug 2020). This didn’t just affect the S 1000 RR; it also affected the newer R 1250 bikes (including the R 1250 RT and R 1250 GS / GSA).
- According to the recall document: This recall involves the front brake calipers which may start to show signs of weeping when parked.
- The weeping is caused by a small incompatibility between the seal groove of the brake caliper and the inner seal.
- This is a low-pressure condition that does not occur with brake actuation.
This effect will not cause a spontaneous and unexpected loss of brake pressure. BMW does not see any immediate safety risk because it is a low-pressure minor fluid loss (weeping). However, over a very long period of time, it is possible that if the rider does not check the brake fluid reservoir and does not notice a reduction in the fluid volume, then eventually, when the reservoir is empty, this could affect brake performance.
Riders may notice the start of front brake caliper weeping by brake fluid sweat marks on the caliper. Riders may also notice fluid marks on the front rim, tire, and/or on the ground. Additionally, if this condition continued to occur over a long period of time, riders would also observe this condition via the brake fluid reservoir window mounted on the handlebars,
NHTSA document 20V476, lightly edited for clarity / emphasis So BMW recalled all these motorcycles and replaced the brake calipers with Nissin calipers. “What?” cried the internet. “Why not just go back to Brembo!” Well, Nissin, a company majority owned by Honda, makes some pretty good calipers.
What brakes do Lamborghini use?
Actually, most of the Lamborghini lineup comes with carbon-ceramic brakes on both the front and the rear. This even includes the new Lamborghini Urus. The only current Lamborghini models that do not use carbon-ceramic brakes are the RWD Huracan models which use ventilated steel disc brakes.
What brakes does AMG use?
AMG® High-Performance Compound Braking System- Two-piece carbon and ceramic compound rotors ; lighter than other brake systems.
What brake does Ferrari use?
Everything there is to know about the very special brakes used in the world’s most prestigious single brand championship. – More than 40 years of partnership. The collaboration between Brembo and Ferrari began back in 1975 when Brembo started supplying the Scuderia with cast iron discs for Formula 1 GP races, Let’s shift the focus from the Formula 1 single-seaters to the braking systems on the cars competing in the Ferrari Challenge, the world’s most coveted and envied single brand championship. From the 1993 to today, more than one thousand drivers have participated in the Challenge. In the last three years, the 458 Challenge EVO has been on the track. Here are 5 things to know about its brakes. 1) TRADITION : ever since the founding of the Ferrari Challenge in 1993, the brakes on the cars racing have always been produced by Brembo. This includes the 348s that raced in the earliest editions, the F355s introduced in 1995, and the Ferrari 360s admitted in 2000.
Even the F430s that took to the track in 2006 were equipped with Brembo brakes, just like the 458s that the regulations have allowed on the circuit as of 2011. The use of Brembo braking systems ensures the highest standards in safety, a priority the organisers have always pursued.2) EXCLUSIVITY : the Ferrari Challenge is the only single brand competition in the world where the participating vehicles use Brembo carbon-ceramic discs.
Compared to carbon, this material is highly reactive and does not require reaching a specific temperature to guarantee excellent braking performance. Indeed, the drivers are able to brake immediately out of the pits without needing to warm up the system first. 3) CHECKS : it is impossible to verify the wear of the discs simply by observing or touching them because they are made out of carbon-ceramic. The thickness of these discs remains unchanged and even an analysis of the surface does not lead to any conclusions.
That is why Ferrari’s management software checks the mileage. This software determines the rate of consumption through an algorithm and warns when it is necessary to replace the discs. Similarly, the Brembo pads are equipped with a wear sensor.4) PERFORMANCE : the 458 Challenge EVOs perform exceptionally from the point of view of both speeds reached and braking conducted.
The 4.5 litre V8 engine guarantees 570 horsepower, allowing the cars to reach 290 km/h. The deceleration is just as impressive: to go from 270 km/h to 60 km/h, for example, these cars need only 5 seconds and 250 metres. The credit goes in part to the Brembo calipers: 6-piston calipers in the front and 4-piston calipers in the rear. 5) THERMAL STRESS : just like its street counterpart, the 458 Challenge EVO is fitted with an ABS. However, on this count it was mapped out in a slightly different manner because the track requires a more reactive system. During the more violent braking manoeuvres, the ABS increases the temperature of the discs (390×38 in the front, 380×34 in the rear) significantly, in some cases reaching more than a thousand degrees. In the 2017, the Ferrari Challenge, at its 25th year, will be raced by the new 488 Challenge and once again Brembo will be called on to provide a braking system that guarantees fun for the drivers but doesn’t jeopardise safety. In the meantime, you can delve even deeper into the most exciting car brakes in the world at www.brembo.com.
Is it worth upgrading brakes?
Why do some car owners upgrade their brakes? – 
According to some experts, the logical reasoning as to why some car owners upgrade their brakes is for improved stopping power and enhanced safety. This is all thanks to the higher-quality brake parts that should last longer and decrease your car’s stopping distance.
Upgrading your brakes will allow it to perform better under extreme conditions and, as a result, improve your vehicle’s safety. So yes, it really is necessary for safety. Some, on the other hand, do it for aesthetic purposes. Those who are into aftermarket parts will sometimes purchase a large set of rims and then couple it with big vented rotors for a sportier look.
There are other owners, still, who’ve modified their car to the point that they’ve packed on a few hundred kilograms, as is the case with bulletproof SUVs and Cars. The added weight will hamper a vehicle’s ability to stop efficiently, hence it may be logical to upgrade the brakes.
Is it worth getting performance brakes?
In the grand scheme of things, most stock OEM brakes are absolutely fine. They stop your car well enough, last long enough, and are affordable enough to make replacing them every few years not too unpleasant. Those looking for an upgrade, however, or those who have noticed their stock brakes overheating or wearing too quickly, should strongly consider performance brakes.
What are the best brakes for daily driving?
Ceramic brake pads have excellent stopping power and disperse heat well. Ideal for most normal driving applications, they produce very little dust or noise and are long lasting. Many foreign and domestic vehicles are equipped with ceramic brake pad formulations from the factory.
Why are BMW brakes so loud?
1. The Brakes Are Overheated – Brakes that are squealing constantly are a sign that the brake system is too hot. This is very dangerous because overheating brakes eventually fail. The reason the brakes are squealing is that the brake pad surfaces and the rotor surfaces have smoothed out.
Do BMW M brakes squeak?
Brake Squeal on M Sport Brakes
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| Private First Class Drives: 2018 BMW 530i Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: ( ) Garage List | Brake Squeal on M Sport Brakes I have been having annoying brake squeals on the right rear rotors/pads ever since I got my vehicle last July (currently only has 9,000km). This squeal happens when the brakes are applied at around 50% pressure. This happens generally during the warmer weathers (not when its -10 degrees generally speaking). It is a very annoying squeal sound that is very loud. I can even faintly hear it when all the windows are up with radio on. When the windows are open, it is pretty loud. I have been to the BMW servicing multiple occasions. They cleaned the brake pads/rotors, and the sound is still emitting. At the very end, BMW Canada indicated that M Sport Brakes squeal and are completely normal. I called BMW Canada and they said the same thing, that the squeal is completely normal and nothing can be done, even if the rotors/pads were changed. I stated that that is not true. You cannot be 100% certain that the sound will continue even if the brakes were changed. The employee stated that he has a 2019 BMW and his car makes the same noise and it is normal. I find this to be flawed an indicated that if it is normal, then my other brakes would emit the same squeal, and numerous of BMW on the road will squeal every time they brake was well. I then proceeded to state that other brands that I have owned, such as Porsche, Maserati, Mercedes, Audi, etc., some of which are considered to be even a “higher performance” vehicle than BMW, never emitted a squealing sound. Furthermore, I stated that it is illogical that the squealing sound is normal. Manufacturers strive to maintain quality in production and common sense would follow the constant brake squeals are NOT within the parameters of being normal. I am just very frustrated with my 2018 BMW 530i. I had to bring this vehicle in for service over 5 times due to engine light being on multiple times, since they were unable to fix it the first 3-4 times, as well as bringing it in for the brakes, which even the technician stated that it should not be making such a sound. However, the diagnostics did not render such sound as a “manufacturing defect” and hence, BMW Canada is not replacing the brake. |
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| Originally Posted by CLABRO It is not normal, but it isn’t unheard of either. I’ve read a few threads from maybe 2 or 3 people that have said their M Sport brakes squeak or squeal, however, that is not the majority. From my reading around different forums and talking to BMW, I’d say probably 90-95% of people with M Sport Brakes on our cars do not have this issue. However, a small percent do report this issue and I haven’t heard of a solid solution yet that has fixed the issue so we don’t know what is causing it. Have you tried taking it to another dealer to see if they can be of better help? There’s nothing worse than getting someone (in any field) who isn’t helpful and sits there and proceeds to say nothing can be done because that’s BS (most of the time). Good luck and keep this forum posted. Oh, and I have 15,000 miles on my M Sport Brakes and haven’t heard any squealing or squeaking. |
I just noticed it on my M550 at slow speed and light pressure. Like when parking. I have almost 15000 miles on mine. Anyone else noticing that? I will be taking it in soon to get a tire replaced so I could ask them to look at it if anyone else has been successful in getting it fixed. _ 2021 X5 xDrive 40i
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| Originally Posted by Jelston I am a service technician by trade, and i get people with this complaint from time to time. what i explain to them it is not abnormal to get brake noise. Any thing that applies friction from two surfaces can create a sound. However when the noise is consistent that in itself is abnormal. If the service department has already serviced the brakes, such as removed the pads and deglaze them. Cleaned and lube all mounting point, contact points. and lubed slide pins. If the noise is still present then insist on pad replacement. as the issue is most likely a issue in the brake pad compound. Also look closely at the rotors on your vehicle and see if you see any signs of abnormal wear such as groves or possibly rust pitting. I hope this helps. Consistent brake noise is Not Normal |
They already serviced the brakes already, and I stated that a pad replacement should be done. Again, they say that because it is “not a defect”, they will not replace it. The rotors also seem to be okay. BMW Canada requested pictures of all four rotors and I suppose they took a look at it and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I doubt that they will do anything further. Good thing my car is leased as I will definitely not be keeping it. It is a shame that such a well built car has so many problems for me.
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Brake Squeal on M Sport Brakes
Why do AMG brakes squeak?
This occurrence is fairly common with brand-new Mercedes-Benz and brake pads since Mercedes-Benz uses high-performance semi-metallic brakes. With brake pads rubbing against metal brake rotors, the squeaking noise is normal, especially with the dust accumulation.
Are BMW M Sport brakes ceramic?
Extremely durable. Extremely fading resistant. Extremely lightweight and agile: The M brake system made from carbon-fibre compound ceramic provides breathtaking performance. both on the road and on the racetrack. For vehicles without Sport brake pads. Fitted at your BMW Center Fitting time: 300 mins Model availability
Which brakes wear the fastest?
Typical brake pad wear: – What causes brake pads to wear out is general, day-to-day use, plus mileage incurred, the surrounding environment and/or the personal driving habits of the owner(s).
For example, a city driver will use their brakes more than drivers that use the highway with little traffic, or drivers that live in rural areas.Speed plays a factor as well. Those who do a lot of small, low-speeds stops are going to be easier on their brakes than those who have to do heavy braking at higher speeds. Braking at low speeds doesn’t affect your brake pads as much as heavy braking at higher speeds. For this reason, congested highways are the main culprits that cause brake pad wear. Your front brake pads will also wear down faster than your rear pads. The front of your vehicle handles a lot more weight transfer as you brake, causing more wear.Over time heat and friction also contribute to brake pad wear.Which axle your brakes are on will also influence how much wear and tear your pads sustain. Your car naturally does the majority of its braking with the front brakes, so those pads will wear faster than the rears.
It’s important to remember that is not an exact science. Some brake pads will last up to 70,000 miles, while other drivers might need to replace them as early as 25,000 miles. The type of vehicle you drive, how you use your vehicle and your driving style are all factors to consider.
Are Sport brakes better?
Sporting Brake Pads With high-quality materials, you get improved thermal resistance and better performance in harsh driving conditions. Brake pads and rotors work in sync for their entire life together, making the selection of the right pad very important.
When should I replace my M brake pads?
HOW LONG DO BRAKE PADS AND SHOES LAST? – The real answer to how long brake pads and shoes can last will vary from vehicle to vehicle and from driver to driver. For example, if you tend to drive the most often in urban areas or in heavy commuter traffic, you’ll be engaging your brakes a lot more frequently than someone who drives in rural locations or on highways.
- Some people also tend to “ride the brake,” meaning they press and depress their brakes more habitually than other drivers, causing the brake pads to wear away more quickly.
- Brake pads and shoes are generally thought to be good between 30,000-35,000 miles in urban use.
- In less demanding situations like highway driving in light traffic, brakes may last 80,000 miles or more.
With a little attention and forethought, it can be easy to know when to replace brake pads and/or shoes on your vehicle.
How long do Volkswagen brakes last?
The average lifespan for most Volkswagen brake pads is 50,000 miles, but that number can vary based on how often you drive, the quality of the pads, how well you maintain your VW and your driving style.
How many miles do brakes last on BMW?
Brake pads can last anywhere between 30,000-70,000 miles, depending on the brake pads’ quality. Your rotors will last around 70,000 miles because they are denser. If you believe it’s time to replace your vehicle’s brake pads or rotors, schedule a service appointment with us today.
How long do M2 brake discs last?
Ordinarily, 2021 BMW M2 rotors need to be completely replaced every 30,000 – 80,000 miles depending on the factors above.